Rick Kramer is an engineer at the Built Environment department of the Technical University Eindhoven. He speaks about his research into the ideal museum climate. How can you save energy in a museum such that your collection is not damaged and yet visitors have a comfortable climate? Rick Kramer managed to achieve this balance with the climate control he developed himself for the indoor climate of museums. The method was successfully tested in the Hermitage Amsterdam. In June he gained his PhD with distinction for his work at the Built Environment department.